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The tax cut even Republicans can hate

Reid And Senate Democrats Speak On Payroll Tax Plan

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WASHINGTON, DC - DECEMBER 07: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) (C) holds a news conference about extending the payroll tax cut with Senate Majority Whip Richard Durbin (D-IL) (L) and U.S. Sen. Robert Casey (D-PA) at the U.S. Capitol December 7, 2011 in Washington, DC. Reid promised that the tax cut, which is set to expire at the end of the year, will be extended even if he has to keep the Senate in session through the holidays. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

The debate in Congress over the payroll tax-cut extension, which is going down the same route as...pretty much every other debate in Congress this session, has created a sort of political Bizarro World. The proposed legislation wouldn't just extend the payroll tax cut, it would also tackle other funding issues. But the payroll tax-cut is where the action is.

The concern, among a strange axis of conservative Republicans and liberal Democrats, is that extending the tax cut will threaten Social Security. Benefits outpaced revenues in 2010. But as this chart from the New York Times shows, that's not unprecedented — Social Security payments ran above revenues in the 1970s and '80s. 

However, since the late 1980s, Social Security has been running a surplus, with the extra money invested in interest-earning Treasury bonds. That funds now stands at $2.6 trillion. The cost of the payroll tax cut? $105 billion.


Herman Cain says his plan to reform Social Security worked for Chile, but can it work in the USA?

Herman Cain is now polling alongside perpetual Republican kinda sorta frontrunner Mitt Romney. Today, KPCC's AirTalk did a segment on the sudden arrival of the Cain Train. Time to get up to speed on everything the pizza king stands for, and fast! Yesterday, it was the 9-9-9 plan to reform the tax system. Today, it's Cain's scheme to fix Social Security.

In the CNN/Tea Party Debate, Cain said his plan could copy the "Chilean Model" (see the above video). So what does that mean?

It means privatizing Social Security, as Chile did in the early 1980s. José Piñera, the Chilean government official who oversaw the conversion of his country's social security system from its classic model to one based on private investment accounts, explained how and why he did it, back in 1997 (his account now lives on the Cato Institute site).


Econ 474: Is Social Security a Ponzi scheme?

If you followed my live-econoblogging of last night's Republican debate at the Reagan Library, you know that Gov. Rick Perry of Texas refused to back down on his assertion that Social Security is a "Ponzi scheme." Bear in mind that Perry has been on the record with this position for a while, but most of the post-debate punditry focused on whether it was politically wise for him to so stridently restate the view. 

Perry was clearly playing to his base — and maybe even providing some cover for his lack of a comprehensive economic plan compared to Mitt Romney, who laid out his jobs plan in detail prior to the debate. Regardless, he's certainly not the first person to call Social Security a Ponzi scheme, but he's the latest and arguably most prominent figure to completely misrepresent how Social Security actually works.


Reportings: Amazon Tax; Zagat to Google; Boomer bucks; Ponzi scheme; beaten down by joblessness

The Amazon Tax debate comes to an end. "Under the handshake deal, Amazon won a delay until at least September 2012 but will eventually collect state sales taxes." (SacBee)


Google buys Zagat, which sells the only piece of printed matter than anyone seems to actually buy anymore. Price? No details. Probably around the last ask for Zagat, $200 million (Less?). "The move is part of Google’s mission to improve its local products, which are now run by Google VP Marissa Mayer (Mayer has long been one of the most public faces at the company, and was head of Search for a decade)." (TechCrunch)


KPCC's AirTalk jumps in the stingy Baby Boomers story. Greedy solipsism or an aging generation finally, at long last, after decades of sacrifice, deciding to live it up? (KPCC.org)


The Social Security Administration's historian (yes, it has one) lays out exactly why Social Security is not a Ponzi scheme. "Social Security is and always has been either a "pay-as-you-go" system or one that was partially advance-funded. Its structure, logic, and mode of operation have nothing in common with Ponzi schemes or chain letters or pyramid schemes." (ssa.gov)