As the drought stretches into its fourth year, the fate of California’s wildlife is more precarious than ever.

Wetlands are drying, rivers are heating up and the Sierra Nevada snowpack is just 12 percent its normal level.

Some estimates say that when it comes to California critters that depend on freshwater up to 75% are already threatened or endangered. That does not spell good news for the state of the ecosystem in 2040. But is all hope lost?

Guest:

Catherine Burns, Associate Director of the Water Program at the Nature Conservancy

Gregory Giusti, Forest Adviser with the University of California Division of Agriculture and Natural Resources in Lake and Mendocino counties