David Kirkpatrick, author of Into the Hands of the Soldiers, says the Obama White House watched Arab democracy fall and now the Trump administration is embracing Egypt's autocratic president. Kirkpatrick was the New York Times Cairo Bureau Chief from 2011-15. During the coup, he was in Rabaa Square when soldiers massacred protesters, killing as many as 1,000 people.

Julian Adler, co-author of 'Start Here,' and Judge Victoria Pratt discuss alternatives to jail, including community service, social services and even personal essays. Adler and his co-author Greg Berman write, jails "are accelerants of human misery. If you are poor or mentally ill or struggling to keep your family together when you enter, the chances are that all of these conditions will be markedly worse when you come out."

Rock critic Ken Tucker reviews the album 'Hive Mind' by the band The Internet.

After being kidnapped in Somalia, journalist Michael Scott Moore was desperate to escape. But jumping off the deck of a boat didn't work. "They found me eventually with the search lights," he says. He tells 'Fresh Air' about how he was beaten and considered suicide before eventually being released for ransom. Moore's book is 'The Desert and the Sea.'

TV critic David Bianculli reviews 'Better Call Saul' season 4, which begins Monday, Aug. 6.

Former 'Monk' star Tony Shalhoub recently won a Tony award for his role in 'The Band's Visit' and is up for an Emmy for 'The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel.' He talks to 'Fresh Air' about why the film 'Big Night' was a turning point in his career.

We mark the return of the 'Breaking Bad' spinoff by listening to archival interviews with star Bob Odenkirk, series co-creator Peter Gould and actors Giancarlo Esposito and Jonathan Banks. Season 4 begins Monday, Aug. 6.

Journalist A.C. Thompson warns that white power groups in the U.S. increasingly view themselves as paramilitary organizations. His reporting is featured in a new 'Frontline' and 'ProPublica' investigation.

Film critic David Edelstein reviews a documentary about the "pimp of Hollywood," Scotty Bowers.

Smithsonian paleobiologist Nick Pyenson says about 40 to 50 million years ago whales had four legs and walked on land. Pyenson notes that the largest whales alive today are the biggest that have ever existed: "They are absolutely the largest vertebrate animals to have ever evolved in the history of life on Earth. No dinosaur was heavier." He'll explain how echolocation works, how they hold their breath for hours, and why we're in the "golden age" of whale science. Pyenson's new book is 'Spying on Whales.'

Also, book critic Maureen Corrigan reviews 'The Incendiaries: A Novel' by R.O. Kwon.