British Prime Minister Winston Churchill once said, "Never stand up when you can sit down, and never sit down when you can lie down." Which got us wondering where he would have stood, so to speak, on kneeling -- specifically NFL players who kneel during the national anthem.
The football season ended about a month ago and it will be another six months before it starts up again. But it isn't too early to talk about the protest against racial injustice and police brutality that Colin Kaepernick started two years ago. Will it stick around or go away?
Andy and Brian Kamenetzky joined Take Two's A Martinez to talk about it.
Will kneeling still be happening once the NFL starts up again in September?
"It's obviously still too early to know, but there are some concerns about less flexibility by certain owners. Texans aren't interested in bringing in free agents who have knelt or would kneel during the anthem," Andy Kamenetzky said.
"The NFL Players Assn. issued a statement Tuesday saying during this past season we received assurances from Commissioner Roger Goodell that the right of the players to demonstrate would be protected. The issue remains complicated and fluid."
What's the plan for players and teams?
"The players will do things as they have been, which is on a player-by-player and case-by-case basis. Stephen Ross, who has been as vocal as any owner in the league about supporting the players and the message about what they're doing, he talked more about the issue of efficacy than their right to do it," Brian Kamenetzky said. "The protest movement has been co-opted and become something that is about patriotism and respect for the flag rather than the issues that were being protested."
"The week before Trump went off on Twitter, there were only four players who knelt during the anthem, so it had started to die down, but then it became a thing again."