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Ingredients for 'The Cake': politics, values and a live audience




Debra Jo Rupp (Della) and Shannon Lucio (Jen) in
Debra Jo Rupp (Della) and Shannon Lucio (Jen) in "The Cake."
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On today's show:

A hot button social topic plays out inside a bakery 

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The plot of "The Cake" sounds a lot like a story you've heard before. The play is about a conservative Christian baker named Della who’s extremely conflicted when she is asked to bake a cake for a lesbian wedding. Back when TV writer and playwright Bekah Brunstetter ("This is Us," "American Gods") started writing “The Cake,” there were several news stories about bakers refusing to make wedding cakes for gay couples. The U.S. Supreme Court heard a discrimination case against a Colorado baker who refused to make a cake for a gay couple because of his religious objections to their marriage. The court upheld both gay rights and religious freedom with a narrowly written decision in favor of the baker. In Brunstetter's story, the baker and the couple aren't strangers. One of the brides, Jen, is an old family friend of Della's. Brunstetter and actress Debra Jo Rupp, who plays Della, spoke with The Frame host John Horn about "The Cake." (The play premiered last year at the Echo Theater Company and has been revived at the Geffen Playhouse.)

Who might win next year's Emmys?

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The Emmy Awards are taking place just as the Fall TV season is rolling out. Hollywood Reporter TV critic Daniel Fienberg talks with John Horn about the shows to watch for.

'I'm In the Band': Ana da Silva tells her story

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In the late '70s, Ana da Silva and Gina Birch formed the pioneering post-punk band, The Raincoats. They, along with members Palmolive and Vicky Aspinall, set a precedent for feminist music and influenced a generation of DIY musicians, notably Kurt Cobain. Da Silva now has a forthcoming album, “Island,” made on modular synthesizers with the Japanese experimental musician known as Phew. This interview is excerpted from "I’m In the Band,” a podcast about women in punk music created by musician and writer Allison Wolfe and The Frame’s Jonathan Shifflett.